This is episode 2 of Hutt Up or Shut Up starring Sam Azbel and Paul Zhou! Joined by guests and NSD Top Lab Teachers Shivane Sabharwal and Sean McCormick, they discuss the judge as an educator, what ought debate look like, Sam’s stellar debate career, and how to make rounds less boring for old judges like Sam and Paul.

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